Comments on: The Tithe: Malachi 3:8-11 http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/ Original Christian articles, guides, sermons and ministry tools Fri, 18 May 2012 05:16:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Gary Linton http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-13/#comment-4193 Gary Linton Tue, 06 Mar 2012 13:24:03 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-4193 Chris - I did not change anything. It is clear that the people of God gave a tenth of what they had. At the time they gave a tenth or first-fruit of their harvest (what they were receiving). We to are to give the first-fruit of what we receive. That is what the writer of Proverbs was saying when he said, “Honor the LORD from your wealth And from the first of all your produce” (Proverbs 3:9 NASB). If you don't want to tithe that is your prerogative. Chris – I did not change anything. It is clear that the people of God gave a tenth of what they had. At the time they gave a tenth or first-fruit of their harvest (what they were receiving). We to are to give the first-fruit of what we receive. That is what the writer of Proverbs was saying when he said, “Honor the LORD from your wealth And from the first of all your produce” (Proverbs 3:9 NASB). If you don’t want to tithe that is your prerogative.

]]> By: chris http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-13/#comment-4188 chris Tue, 06 Mar 2012 10:20:31 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-4188 Jesus says that anyone who changes one 'jot or tittle' of the Law will be least in the kingdom. Who authorised you to change tithes from food to money? (Lev 27:30&32) Who authorised you to make tithes applicable to Gentiles (contrary to Lev 27:1 & 34 and Acts 15) Who authorised the church to become the storehouse which receives tithes when God gave them to the Levites under covent (Numbers 18::23-24) Why do you not tell people that the bible COMMANDS that they EAT their tithes (Deut 14:22-26) Repent or pay the price. Chris Jesus says that anyone who changes one ‘jot or tittle’ of the Law will be least in the kingdom.
Who authorised you to change tithes from food to money? (Lev 27:30&32)
Who authorised you to make tithes applicable to Gentiles (contrary to Lev 27:1 & 34 and Acts 15)
Who authorised the church to become the storehouse which receives tithes when God gave them to the Levites under covent (Numbers 18::23-24)
Why do you not tell people that the bible COMMANDS that they EAT their tithes (Deut 14:22-26)
Repent or pay the price.
Chris

]]> By: Gary Linton http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-13/#comment-3425 Gary Linton Wed, 25 Jan 2012 10:03:41 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-3425 Amen Caroline! Praise God for faithful people like yourself. God will reward your faithfulness. "A faithful man (person) will abound with blessings" (Proverbs 28:20 NASB). Amen Caroline! Praise God for faithful people like yourself. God will reward your faithfulness. “A faithful man (person) will abound with blessings” (Proverbs 28:20 NASB).

]]> By: Caroline http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-13/#comment-3422 Caroline Wed, 25 Jan 2012 09:00:20 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-3422 I am not surprised at the kind of responses this article has elicited. for i too at one point used to be a strong anti-tither. it is not any pastor who asks people to tithe. it is the instruction in the word of God. unless we have stopped believing the word- Malachi 3:10 says clearly, and i quote; "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it." ______yet even with the writing in black and white, we still have the guts to throw stones at those who try to elaborate on this. we contract ourselves when we hurry to pick other verses such as Jer 29: 11, or Luke 1:35 and steadfastly hold onto them without questioning. but since this particular verse is about giving, we seem to take offence. i had all these arguments some of you have supporting my position. but not anymore, and i thank God that i now know the truth. i dint change my position because any pastor had convinced me. No, i just read the tithing scripture and made a decision to change based on that. i appreciate though that there are some pastors who take advantage of this scripture and plunder finances raised through tithing. when i realised this is the case, i decided to give to the church where i get my spiritual nourishment. i dont care what they do with the finances. they'll face the wrath of God. what matters to me is that i have done my part. if they dont follow the instructions, thats their bit to deal with. God knows. otherwise tithing has greatly changed my life. whenever i have trusted God completely and given despite financial pressures, He has done exactly what He says in Malachi. He has flung open the doors of finances to me and fully provided for my needs. i know tithing shd be done secretly but i am jus saddened when it is misunderstood by those against it. do it from ur heart. its an instruction from God. re-read Malachi. I am not surprised at the kind of responses this article has elicited. for i too at one point used to be a strong anti-tither. it is not any pastor who asks people to tithe. it is the instruction in the word of God. unless we have stopped believing the word- Malachi 3:10 says clearly, and i quote; “Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the LORD Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.” ______yet even with the writing in black and white, we still have the guts to throw stones at those who try to elaborate on this. we contract ourselves when we hurry to pick other verses such as Jer 29: 11, or Luke 1:35 and steadfastly hold onto them without questioning. but since this particular verse is about giving, we seem to take offence. i had all these arguments some of you have supporting my position. but not anymore, and i thank God that i now know the truth. i dint change my position because any pastor had convinced me. No, i just read the tithing scripture and made a decision to change based on that. i appreciate though that there are some pastors who take advantage of this scripture and plunder finances raised through tithing. when i realised this is the case, i decided to give to the church where i get my spiritual nourishment. i dont care what they do with the finances. they’ll face the wrath of God. what matters to me is that i have done my part. if they dont follow the instructions, thats their bit to deal with. God knows. otherwise tithing has greatly changed my life. whenever i have trusted God completely and given despite financial pressures, He has done exactly what He says in Malachi. He has flung open the doors of finances to me and fully provided for my needs. i know tithing shd be done secretly but i am jus saddened when it is misunderstood by those against it. do it from ur heart. its an instruction from God. re-read Malachi.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-9/#comment-2683 Anonymous Wed, 07 Sep 2011 16:04:27 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-2683 Jack I love what you wrote "No one here is saying that tithing is a strict, 10% Biblical doctrine or law or teaching. It is a principle that we give back a portion that God has blessed us...." The problem is the word principle having more than one meaning; causes a problem. 1. A fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning. 2. A rule or belief governing one's personal behavior. #1 above I like, but #2 says rule. Depending on whether a person sees it as a RULE instead of a proposition that serves as a foundation..., puts it as a law or doctrine. Tithing would serve the body of Christ greatly if it were taught as you put it throughout the nation. SImply put, it is a great foundation to help serve the needs of the church (the people, the poor) and most importantly the good news moving forward. I call it offerings, because it should not be done out of compulsion and when a certain number is tied to it, it is then under compulsion for most. I believe Kris' issue is of those who preach condemnation and even a curse, if one doesn't give a tithe as if it is a LAW of 10% under the new covenant. Jack I love what you wrote “No one here is saying that tithing is a strict, 10% Biblical doctrine or law or teaching. It is a principle that we give back a portion that God has blessed us….”
The problem is the word principle having more than one meaning; causes a problem.

1. A fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning.
2. A rule or belief governing one’s personal behavior.

#1 above I like, but #2 says rule. Depending on whether a person sees it as a RULE instead of a proposition that serves as a foundation…, puts it as a law or doctrine.

Tithing would serve the body of Christ greatly if it were taught as you put it throughout the nation. SImply put, it is a great foundation to help serve the needs of the church (the people, the poor) and most importantly the good news moving forward. I call it offerings, because it should not be done out of compulsion and when a certain number is tied to it, it is then under compulsion for most.

I believe Kris’ issue is of those who preach condemnation and even a curse, if one doesn’t give a tithe as if it is a LAW of 10% under the new covenant.

]]> By: Eddie Hernandez http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-13/#comment-2033 Eddie Hernandez Mon, 28 Mar 2011 05:02:16 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-2033 Controversy shall follow teaching of God's word, especially if it involves people's precious dollars. When I tithe, I prepare it in advance, fold it into my wallet, and when I give it... I believe God for His Word, not Dow Jones or National Bank of______. After all, it's His Word, not mine. If anyone has a problem with it, take it up with Him...He wrote it. Amen? In Matthew 22:37, Jesus(note red letters) says: "LOVE the Lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul and with all your MIND." Are you loving Him when you pray? Are you loving Him when you Praise? Are you loving Him when you give? The results will be remarkable. Controversy shall follow teaching of God’s word, especially if it involves people’s precious dollars. When I tithe, I prepare it in advance, fold it into my wallet, and when I give it… I believe God for His Word, not Dow Jones or National Bank of______. After all, it’s His Word, not mine. If anyone has a problem with it, take it up with Him…He wrote it. Amen? In Matthew 22:37, Jesus(note red letters) says: “LOVE the Lord your God with all your heart,and with all your soul and with all your MIND.” Are you loving Him when you pray? Are you loving Him when you Praise? Are you loving Him when you give? The results will be remarkable.

]]> By: Gloria http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-12/#comment-1096 Gloria Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:43:23 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-1096 I was abused as a child and later in my marriage. I'm now divorced. What came out of the mess of my life was Ministry for hurting women hurting women and abused children. Everywhere I was like the story of the Piped Piper, hurting women approached me in Grocery stores,Supermarkets, Parks etc. God gave me many spiritual daughters in the Lord. My goal is to open a safe shelter for homeless, abused women & children. Not trying to boast but in one year I had about ten women coming to my Church. Half asked for help, one in particular had been beaten by her husband and staying in a temporary shelter. She asked my Church to help her and got a long lecture on not tithing. They blamed all of her troubles on the fact that God was with-holding his blessings because she was not a tither. I had not talked to her in a while after she she went into the shelter & I didn't know what was going on. She wrote a letter telling the Pastor I bought her to Church but she would never come back because she was given the third degree (raked over the mill) for not tithing. The Pastor over the Pulpit said we should not expect the Church to help people not paying their tithes and that many of them are professional takers. Later he was forced to resign for having a 2yr. adulterous affair. Just goes to show there is none righteous, no not one. Our righteousness surely comes from our position in Christ alone! I was abused as a child and later in my marriage. I’m now divorced. What came out of the mess of my life was Ministry for hurting women hurting women and abused children. Everywhere I was like the story of the Piped Piper, hurting women approached me in Grocery stores,Supermarkets, Parks etc. God gave me many spiritual daughters in the Lord. My goal is to open a safe shelter for homeless, abused women & children. Not trying to boast but in one year I had about ten women coming to my Church. Half asked for help, one in particular had been beaten by her husband and staying in a temporary shelter. She asked my Church to help her and got a long lecture on not tithing. They blamed all of her troubles on the fact that God was with-holding his blessings because she was not a tither. I had not talked to her in a while after she she went into the shelter & I didn’t know what was going on. She wrote a letter telling the Pastor I bought her to Church but she would never come back because she was given the third degree (raked over the mill) for not tithing. The Pastor over the Pulpit said we should not expect the Church to help people not paying their tithes and that many of them are professional takers. Later he was forced to resign for having a 2yr. adulterous affair. Just goes to show there is none righteous, no not one. Our righteousness surely comes from our position in Christ alone!

]]> By: Truthbetold http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-12/#comment-1095 Truthbetold Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:33:29 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-1095 They keeps the Sabbath Holy but there are 612 more to go (with a total of 613 Mosaic laws) Jews had to keep them all or it voided the whole Covenant. To reaffirm the Covenant a perfect lamb was slain for the remission of sins and breaking God's moral laws. Ask any Devout Jew and they will confirm there were 613 laws, or google it if you want proof. They keeps the Sabbath Holy but there are 612 more to go (with a total of 613 Mosaic laws) Jews had to keep them all or it voided the whole Covenant. To reaffirm the Covenant a perfect lamb was slain for the remission of sins and breaking God’s moral laws. Ask any Devout Jew and they will confirm there were 613 laws, or google it if you want proof.

]]> By: Elsa http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-12/#comment-1094 Elsa Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:27:33 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-1094 My mother in law is Seven Day Adventist and is also a born again believer.She thinks Christians are disobeying the ten commandments and could land up in Hell because of not keeping the Sabbath Day Holy. (set apart).For Devout Seven Day Adventist, everything stops on Friday as soon as the Sun sets she does nothing but read her bible or rest till Saturday at dusk. To her credit when my car broke down in a bad neighborhood she came to pick me up. I was shocked but apparently, it is alright for her to do good on the Sabbath. My mother in law is Seven Day Adventist and is also a born again believer.She thinks Christians are disobeying the ten commandments and could land up in Hell because of not keeping the Sabbath Day Holy. (set apart).For Devout Seven Day Adventist, everything stops on Friday as soon as the Sun sets she does nothing but read her bible or rest till Saturday at dusk. To her credit when my car broke down in a bad neighborhood she came to pick me up. I was shocked but apparently, it is alright for her to do good on the Sabbath.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.ministrymaker.com/the-tithe/comment-page-12/#comment-1093 Anonymous Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:08:27 +0000 http://www.ministrymaker.com/?p=211#comment-1093 Paul consulted The Council of Jerusalem about Judaizers in Acts Chapter 15. Hope it was okay by Sal weigh in on his question. Paul consulted The Council of Jerusalem about Judaizers in Acts Chapter 15. Hope it was okay by Sal weigh in on his question.

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